Loganville Mother Shoots Burglar, But What If She Hadn't Been Armed?

A burglar was shot by a Loganville homeowner Friday morning, but what could have happened had she not been armed?

Guns, whether or not to have one, whether or not to ban certain types and whether or not to make public the names of permitted owners — all of these are questions on the minds of many since the Sandy Hook Elementary School shootings last month in Connecticut. Lawmakers at local and federal levels are looking for ways to ease people's fears and to protect the public from such random acts of violence. How to do it, however, is where the difficulties become evident.

The latest controversy has been around a choice by a New York newspaper to publish the names of permitted gun owners as reported in The Huffington Post. A Connecticut lawmaker, in the state still reeling from the Sandy Hook tragedy, also wants all the names of the permitted gun owners in that state to be made public. According to Fox News, this would reverse a 20-year law that requires this information be kept private.

Friday's shooting of a burglar in Loganville by a young mother, however, shines a different light on the situation.

According to the Walton County Sheriff's Office, a young Loganville mother called to report a burglar breaking into her home before retreating to an attic crawl space with her two young children. When the burglar located her there, she shot him six times, hitting him five. He is in a critical condition in the hospital.

This begs the question, what would the outcome have been had she not had the gun? The deputies were on their way — could a hostage situation have ensued?

Another question is what could have happened had her name, address and her gun ownership been know, what then? Would her house have been one that was bypassed by the burglar as a result, thus averting the situation for her entirely? But could that then have resulted in an unarmed neighbor being the victim instead? Or would the perpetrator, knowing he faced the possibility of facing an armed homeowner and approached the situation differently, possibly arming himself? Is this outcome more the exception and not the norm?

What is your opinion? Was the result the best outcome under the circumstances or is there a better way to handle the troubling issue of gun violence in today's society?

Good Grief Y'all February 04, 2013 at 12:21 PM
Tammy, you should have done your editing before you posted it live. Too late, damage done once others can read it (even if you edit or delete, the posts show up in email notifications), especially the one person who felt it the most. You see, there you go again with your characterizations - I didn't "demand" an apology. I did say you should apologize but that I didn't expect it. Can you ever see where your phrasing and your words create unnecessary controversy? Actually, I didn't correct you, I questioned you - which you were prideful about, but could have answered in a reasonable way. That educated remark was my personal opinion on preachers. I think you took it personally, which was not intended. I have no idea why you thought I was talking about you. Are you an ordained preacher? You should go back and inventory all of your sermonettes and other lessons. I do believe you have David and me beat, in both volume and quantity. He did teach me a new word - polemics. Interesting definition that word has. That was a somewhat back-handed sort of explanation, filled with more judgment and accusations: "I don't expect one from you as you seldom admit you can be wrong and will only defend yourself and then be more demanding." I try not to be wrong in the first place, but I have admitted to not being an expert and have no aversion to apology. Continuing harsh posts are not conducive to an atmosphere of understanding or apology.
Good Grief Y'all February 04, 2013 at 12:45 PM
Tammy, I'm not sure what you mean by ". . . it would grieve me to know that I did it." Are you saying that I did "shame the body of Christ", as you judged me in your comment, or that you would feel what I did if someone said that to you? There's no "if" about it. You did hurt me with those words. I told you that. Offering me a qualifying apology and turning this around on me isn't helping. If you can find it in your heart to do better, that would be appreciated. If not, I rest my case except to say this: Whenever I have heard or read such unfortunate exchanges as the one on this thread, it makes me think that so many unbelievers, tender new Christians and Christians at a stage in which they doubt their faith because of circumstances are turned away from God by Christians . . . Christians whose testimony, words or hypocritical behavior/lifestyle turn unknown and uncounted souls away from, not toward, Jesus. As Paul usually ended his letters, "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all."
Mr. B February 04, 2013 at 01:16 PM
O thou judgeful one...
Racer X February 04, 2013 at 01:24 PM
GGY- Thanks for the psychoanalysis. It's funny to see you so jealous of Tammy and Mr B's education, willingness to help others and clear perspective. Here you have a couple of folks who recognize reality and are doing what they can to help others while you sit there and spew self-righteous indignation.
Crystal Huskey (Editor) February 04, 2013 at 01:34 PM
David Brown's comments have been deleted, as he requested. Please keep in mind that we are all real people behind these screens, and everyone has the right to their opinion. It's great to debate, but respectfully.
Good Grief Y'all February 04, 2013 at 02:12 PM
Not judging, Mr. B, observing. And what is it you are doing?
Mr. B February 04, 2013 at 02:18 PM
Mr. B February 04, 2013 at 02:20 PM
With open eyes.
Good Grief Y'all February 04, 2013 at 02:22 PM
Racer, you're welcome. I'm trying to be helpful as you obviously just can't help yourself. I assure you, I am not jealous of either Tammy's or Mr. B's "education". They have both shown themselves to write like know-it-alls, but they are not know-it-alls. As for them trying to help others, not happening. On their clear perspective - granted their perspective is very, very clear. But, I acknowledge, it is many hats they seem to wear :D That's my observant opinion, just as they have many times, like you, offered their opinions of me. Isn't turn-about fair play?
Good Grief Y'all February 04, 2013 at 02:30 PM
Open eyes, required when reading, unless you're sight impaired and use Braile. Open mind, harder to conjure up. Good luck with that.
Good Grief Y'all February 04, 2013 at 02:42 PM
Hey, Racer, what happened to your post where you said you would like to see me hit by a bus (along with a hormone comment)? Did Patch censure you again? Likely, Patch did. You don't seem to have a filter.
Racer X February 04, 2013 at 03:00 PM
GGY- I guess Patch deleted it and justifiably so. When I think of all the bus passengers that would be injured by running into you I realize it was a mistake. Thanks for bringing it back up though.
Good Grief Y'all February 04, 2013 at 03:05 PM
Tammy, here's where you jumped from talking about Jesus: "I have a feeling the same Jesus who told the disciples to take their swords with them would understand perfectly." to:" He spoke of both SPIRITUAL truths and advised in the PHYSICAL (the same Paul who healed the sick and raised the dead advised timothy to "take medicine for your ailments..."). Those who live by the sword are the ones he advised them to take a sword for! " Then you went back in the next evening to bring in a comment about Paul, after I questioned your mention of Paul when you were paraphrasing Jesus. That Paul comment actually was out of context. Even Mr. B didn't attack me on that point. That's just for the record. I like to set all things straight, and that was bothering me because I felt you ambushed me, accusing me of arguing about the Word, when it was your comment which needed clarification and that had invited my question.
The Dish February 04, 2013 at 03:42 PM
GGY - And who appointed you the Politically Correct Word Police? And why is it that you, supposedly, can be the only one offended.....and then demand an apology? And, yes, in your comment you demanded an apology. (There you go again - you say suggest, we hear demand. We say defend, you hear offend. Why is it you get to be the deciding factor in how or what is said and how it is interpreted?) At least others admit their faults, apologize (when or if necessary), and allow for differing opinions. In referencing two of your posts/comments, I have to agree with you that some of the exchanges on this post have been 'unfortunate' especially to a 'non believer or someone questioning their faith'. Specifically your following exchange: "Paul did that? Surely you meant to write Jesus healed the sick and raised the dead." Please give me your biblical references since you replied to a post that listed actual scripture to back-up the point - or dispute the scripture that was given. Surely you're not saying Jesus is the only one who healed the sick and raised the dead. I'm so sick of the idea that you become a victim when you've been offended. Then, you are sooooo offended that you demand an apology but then say 'well, your apology wasn't heartfelt enough so I'm still offended and I'm still a poor victim'. Get over it!!! Want something biblical??? God tells us we will be persecuted and that we should Rejoice and be glad when it happens. Matthew 5:10-12
Mr. B February 04, 2013 at 03:50 PM
GGY-Since you invoked my name and accused me of being close minded (I didn't think you engaged in personal attacks), I feel some obligation to respond. I assume that's what you want. I re-read the entire exchange. Tammy was telling a story from the Bible about Paul's miracles and you attempted to correct her stating the subject should be Jesus and not Paul. Tammy then verified the story. And she went further to explain that we all have the power, provided by the Holy Spirit, to do miracles ourselves. Just have Faith, true Faith, never questioning Faith. Almost impossible, I admit. Even though I have witnessed miracles personally, it's still difficult to release myself from the World and have that kind of Faith. But your response, as usual when someone attempts to show you the light, was to attack Tammy and now go on and on trying to defend yourself and put yourself in a superior light. Personally, I don't care one way or the other. I encouraged you earlier to study the Word. Not knowing every story in the Bible isn't a crime. Even those of us that have studied it, been educated in it, and read it over and over miss things often. One of the things I find amazing about the Bible is that every time I read something, I find something new. My final word on the subject. My final review of this thread. Let's talk about something else.
John B February 04, 2013 at 03:58 PM
yup....yup...what Dish said.....amazing how so many of us see things so clearly........
John B February 04, 2013 at 04:01 PM
It wouldn't be worth the dent put in the bus actually............
Good Grief Y'all February 04, 2013 at 04:05 PM
Thought so, Racer. It's good to know they're looking at your posts. You're welcome. I want people to see you for what you are :D
Good Grief Y'all February 04, 2013 at 04:25 PM
Mr. B, it was Tammy who confused the issue in her story. You know that. It's why you didn't jump on me when you made the very next comment. She was talking about Jesus, and mentioned Paul out of the blue. It was in need of clarification. It was she who pounced. Her self-defense mechanism set in, most likely. But I didn't deserve what she said to me. You can't re-read all the comments because they have been deleted (she admitted to editing hers, which seems disingenuous after the fact, instead of offering an explanation and apology). Too late to do a full, knowledgeable critique. It's obvious you and she don't feel I have a right to defend myself. I rarely make personal attacks, but I am human and have human feelings. Some of you categorize observations as attacks, all the while attacking. Take a look at what you have said to and about me on various blog comments, and those of other like-minded participants. Take a good, honest look and tell me you guys don't come after me regularly with personal attacks; some of them are vicious, some even vulgar. I have never had Tammy, with all her Christian convictions, come to my defense. She seems quite okay with the vulgarity and personal comments when they're directed at me. If you're not a part of the solution, you're part of the problem.
Good Grief Y'all February 04, 2013 at 04:27 PM
You and Tammy want this put to bed because you're not willing to admit your participation in what went wrong. I was deeply bothered by her comments and had every right to say it. I put it aside to enjoy the evening with my family and got this nastiness off my mind for a while. Today, I had a very cleared headed, less emotional assessment. I wasn't wrong, but I was wrongly attacked. Of course, you want it to go away. You two should have thought of that earlier.
Good Grief Y'all February 04, 2013 at 05:07 PM
@ The Dish - I don't know where you came from to add another attack on me, but welcome to the fray. Maybe you can teach some folks that if they dish it out, they should stand ready to take it. The original posts were deleted so you can only offer a partial evaluation. Did you see them before the editing? If you did and still defend them, you've got no gripe at me. Nowhere did I make a demand - I said "should" get an apology and that I "didn't expect it". Tammy, though, orders me to "Take out your Bible." And you,demand that I "Get over it!" You take a look at the comments made to me and honestly say I haven't been attacked by several in this thread alone. In fact, in nearly every thread following any blogs, these people come after me. There's quite the documented history on that fact. That makes one a victim. It makes the ones who say the hurtful, offensive things to me or anyone else, the perpetrator. They're in control of that situation. I can take care of myself. But why are you coming to their defense? They are also capable of counterattacks. Why aren't you telling them to stop it and get over it?
Good Grief Y'all February 04, 2013 at 05:09 PM
I posed my question the way I did because the lady was talking about Jesus, not Paul. She realized that after she judged my faith and intent. Her apology wasn't heartfelt, it was "if I offended". A sincere apology isn't prefaced that way and doesn't then proceed to turn it back on the offended. What about turning the other cheek, being humble, "the meek shall inherit the earth"? Christian arrogance and aggression is dangerous to the faith. It's all very unpleasant and uncomfortable for readers. For me, it's personal. And, it is against the Patch terms of service to attack other posters. I didn't make those rules.
John B February 04, 2013 at 05:25 PM
GGY...I could be wrong but it sounds like The Dish's critique of your antics is not solely based on this thread...whatcha think...since you're smarter than the rest of us you surely must have the answer.
Good Grief Y'all February 04, 2013 at 05:52 PM
John B, I don't think you're wrong on that, but I have never heard from or seen this poster before. Maybe he/she is lashing out at me now in defense of his/her secret personal shortcomings. Maybe he/she is trying to appease an unacknowledged guilty conscience. It isn't healthy to bottle up one's angst like that. Maybe he/she should have come forward before. Maybe he/she will grace us with another post and declare him/herself. That doesn't make his/her or your critique of me accurate, whether or not he/she has been following my posts. I know you have. Thanks for the compliment, but I know I'm not smarter than anyone in particular :) You must think so, you said it. And you didn't qualify it with a hearty LOL.
Jim S February 05, 2013 at 01:36 AM
My brother sent me that video. I thought it was cute, but had no real value.
Racer X February 05, 2013 at 10:55 AM
Humor always has value.
Karsten Torch February 05, 2013 at 03:13 PM
"Had no real value." Hmmm....what value should it have had? It was entertaining and rather enlightening. I'm a tad confused by this comment.....
Jim S February 08, 2013 at 02:51 AM
Karsten, had no real value as an example to be defended or discarded. Truthfully, I think it was choreographed by the way the guy went down and came back up. As a humorous example of careful and conscientious shoppers, it was great!
The Dish February 12, 2013 at 05:19 PM
GGY- My 1st comment on the Patch was 10/20/11...not that I need to justify anything to you. And your attempts to delegitimize me (my shortcomings, guilty conscience, angst, etc) are just the same old typical liberal BS - straight from the Alinsky rule book: delegitimize opposition; pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it But I say whatever because I have also been attacked on this forum before and I'm sure I will be in the future as well. The difference between us? I got over it!
Good Grief Y'all February 12, 2013 at 05:34 PM
Dear Dish, My history here doesn't go back that far. I personally have never seen your writings, which is what I said. You popped up to criticize me, not the other way around, so you invited my reply to your personal attack on me. There is nothing for me to get over. I don't comment on everything I read or that bothers me - much written here isn't worth anyone's time. My opinions are mine, but I recognize they're subject to others' comments and counters. However, if I am attacked personally, I don't leave it lay.


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